Comparison table

3D Game Comparison - Game vs. game. No hype; just facts.™

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-	==[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateTable TemplateTable]==	+	These are tests to see if I can get a MediaWiki table to look like my [http://tnlc.com/eep/compare/table.html game comparison table]. Unfortuately, it's not going very well...too many extensions are required to even get basic functionality, let alone the full design!
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		+	==[[mw:Extension:TemplateTable|TemplateTable]]==
	<ttable border cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 style="border: 1px black; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt" class=sortable template='game'>no headers specified--only "website" appears but with cropped template syntax except if the "website" field is defined with a <tt><nowiki>{{template}}</tt></nowiki>; then all other fields display fine (but without links and can't specify if the field names should be on the first column vs. only first row)</ttable>		<ttable border cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 style="border: 1px black; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt" class=sortable template='game'>no headers specified--only "website" appears but with cropped template syntax except if the "website" field is defined with a <tt><nowiki>{{template}}</tt></nowiki>; then all other fields display fine (but without links and can't specify if the field names should be on the first column vs. only first row)</ttable>
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	Lists all articles in category even if they don't use [[template:game]] and doesn't include field links either:		Lists all articles in category even if they don't use [[template:game]] and doesn't include field links either:
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		+	==[[mw:Extension:Semantic MediaWiki|Semantic MediaWiki]]==
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		+	Possible but requires lots of complex relations/attributes/types in order to function. Last-ditch resort...getting closer to using it...but I don't think it can use rows ''and'' columns as headers (multi-dimensional tables) either...<sigh>

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Revision as of 06:38, 30 July 2007

These are tests to see if I can get a MediaWiki table to look like my game comparison table. Unfortuately, it's not going very well...too many extensions are required to even get basic functionality, let alone the full design!

TemplateTable

no headers specified--only "website" appears but with cropped template syntax except if the "website" field is defined with a {{template}}; then all other fields display fine (but without links and can't specify if the field names should be on the first column vs. only first row)

Article	year	genre	publisher	developer	character	engine type polygon	engine	sound	engine type voxel	engine type nurbs	engine optimization lod	engine optimization occlusion culling	engine optimization portal rendering	effect water bubbles	effect water current	effect water drops	effect water ripples	effect water splash	effect water waves	effect breath cold	effect breath fire	effect breath poison	close openable	drop pickupable	drop inventory	pickup dropable	pull pickupable	push pullupable	ride moving	throw pickupable	character description	physics fabric	physics fabric other	physics fluid	physics fluid other	effect breath acid	weather clouds	weather clouds dynamic	weather clouds moving	weather fog	weather fog dynamic	weather rain volumetric	weather lightning	weather rain	weather rain ripple	weather rain splash	weather snow	weather snow build	weather snow dynamic	weather wind	weather wind fans	weather wind flags	weather wind hair	weather wind trees	weather transition	view 1st-person	view 1st-person binocs	view 1st-person gunscope	view 3rd-person	view pan keyboard	view pan mouse	view zoom keyboard	weapons pickupable objects	ammo arrows stick bodies	ammo arrows stick ground	ammo arrows stick walls	ammo arrows retrievable	ammo bolts stick bodies	ammo bolts stick ground	ammo bolts stick walls	ammo bolts retrievable	ammo spears stick bodies	ammo spears stick ground	ammo spears stick walls	ammo spears retrievable	thrown weapons stick bodies	thrown weapons stick ground	thrown weapons stick walls	thrown weapons retrievable	ejected clips stay	ejected clips disappear immediately	ejected clips disappear later	ejected clips disappear never	weapons muzzle flash	weapons muzzle smoke	weapons targeting auto	weapons targeting manual	pickups sprite	pickups 3d	pickups automatic	pickups manual	npcs	#levels	level editor	weapons	inventory	publisher2	engine modified	theme	wikipedia	engine type	engine other	effect water other	engine type	engine optimization	name	actions	break	burn	ride	engine type other	physics gravity	footsteps	character other	engine modified }}	circa	pick up	pull	engine other	weather other	environment effects other	buttons	push	shoot	interaction other	environment other	npcs other	ai	design	objects	atmenv	particles	lighting	physics	shadows	footprints	locations	damage	puzzles	close	drop	throw	turn on/off	inventory design	pickups	ammo	targeting
4x4 Evolution	2000	driving simulation	Gathering of Developers	Terminal Reality	vehicles	yes
Aliens vs Predator 2	2001	first-person shooter	Sierra Entertainment	Monolith Productions	alien, predator, human		Lithtech	stereo
Arx Fatalis	2001	fantasy action-adventure-RPG		Arkane Studios			proprietary																							}} circa: 2001 (Europe)/2002 (USA) ==[[Effects]]== * [[particle effects]]: [[blood spray]]
Assassin's Creed	2008	action-adventure	Ubisoft	Ubisoft Montreal	Altair		Scimitar																								assassin
Carmageddon TDR 2000	2000	arcade driving simulation	Torus Games	Sales Curve Interactive			proprietary
Construction-Destruction	2003	construction simulation	ValuSoft	Gabriel Interactive			proprietary																																																																																					vehicles	10	no	no	no
Deadly Dozen: Pacific Theater	2002	action-tactical		nFusion Interactive			proprietary
Devastation	2003	action	ARUSH Entertainment	Digitalo Studios			Unreal Tournament 2003	stereo																																																																																					20				Groove Games	yes
Dragon's Lair 3D	2002	action-adventure	Ubisoft	Dragonstone Software	Dirk the Daring }} ==[[Effects]]== * atmospheric/environmental ** [[sparkles]]: [[magic]], [[mana]] cell ** [[steam]]: [[cauldron]], [[grate]]		proprietary																																																																																												fantasy
Drakan: Order of the Flame	1999	action-adventure	Psygnosis	Surreal Software	Rynn		Riot engine	stereo																																																																																					14						fantasy,medieval
Dungeon Keeper 2	1999	real-time strategy	Electronic Arts	Bullfrog Productions			proprietary																																																																																												dungeon building
GUN	2005	action-adventure	Activision	Neversoft Entertainment			proprietary	stereo																																																																																												Gun (video game)	polygon	modified ''[[Tony Hawk's Pro Skater]]''?
Gothic	2001	action-adventure, role-playing game		Piranha Bytes	nameless		proprietary	stereo, surround sound, EAX2 }} ==[[Effects]]== * [[lighting]]: [[dynamic light																							male, prisoner																																																														1 [[world]], 4 [[parts]]						fantasy
Half-Life²	2004	Action-Adventure	Sierra Entertainment	Valve Software	Gordon Freeman	yes	Source engine				yes	yes	yes	yes				yes																																																																																					debris, spray
Hard Truck 2	1999	truck driving simulation		Softlab-NSK	trucker		proprietary																								truck driver																																																																									polygon	LOD
Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.²	2000	action-adventure	Sierra Entertainment	Ritual Entertainment	Julie Strain		Quake III																																																																																												fantasy,futuristic		polygon
Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven	2002	action-driving simulation		Illusion Softworks			LS3D }} ==[[Engine]]																																																																																																			{{PAGENAME}}
Magic Carpet	1994	action role-playing game		Bullfrog Productions	Prince	yes	proprietary																																																																																													Magic Carpet (video game)							cast spells, strafe	buildings	trees	magic carpet
Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed	2000	driving simulation	Electronic Arts	EA Canada	cars		proprietary																																																																																					cars			no	no
No One Lives Forever	2000	action-adventure		Monolith Productions			Lithtech }} ==[[Engine]]== * [[lighting]]: [[dynamic light
Outcast	1999	action-adventure	Infogrames	Appeal	Cutter Slade		Paradise																																																																																													Outcast (game)			tinting: player				climb, die (various), jump, run, shoot, stomach lie (+ crawl), swim, walk				terrain	characters	dirt, grass, rice patties, sand, stone, water, wood	water tinting
Postal²	2003	action	Whiptail Interactive	Running With Scissors			Unreal 2																																																																																																			Postal 2									=[[Engine]]== * [[collision detection]]: 2D, except bodies
Risen	2009	action-adventure, role-playing game		Piranha Bytes	nameless			stereo																							male																																																														1 [[island]]						fantasy, medieval
Severance: Blade of Darkness	2001	action role-playing game	Codemasters	Rebel Act Studios	various		proprietary																																																																																																	polygon }} ==[[Engine]]== * {{iawm
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind		fantasy action-adventure-RPG					NDL NetImmerse }} ==[[Engine]]== * [[collision detection]]: 2D; character/NPCs can block doors * [[lighting]]: [[dynamic light																																																																																																													2002
Thief: The Dark Project	1998	action-adventure	Eidos Interactive	Looking Glass Studios	Garrett	yes	Dark Engine	stereo					yes
Tomb Raider	1996	action-adventure	Eidos Interactive	Core Design	Lara Croft	yes	proprietary											yes																																																																																									climb, dive, grab, jump, pick up, pull, push, roll, run, shimmy, shoot, sidestep, swim, vault, walk										ammo, artifacts, keys, weapons	blocks, crates, levers, switches
Tomb Raider: Legend	2005	action-adventure	Eidos Interactive	Crystal Dynamics	Lara Croft		proprietary
Trespasser	1998	action-adventure	Electronic Arts	Dreamworks	Anne		proprietary																								tourist																																																													dinosaurs			* anything pickupable, bat, guns [.22 Calico, .38 Special, .50 Barret rifle, AK-47, Benelli M1 Super 90 shotgun, Beretta 9mm, Browning .50 caliber machine gun, Desert Eagle .44 Magnum, Heckler and Koch (91, MP5 9mm, VP70 9mm), M-14, Mac-10 9mm, Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum, S&W 686 .357 Magnum, SPAS 12, toxic gun, tranquilizer pistol & rifle], mace * [[bullet shells]]: eject, bounce off things, make sound, then disappear after a few seconds					Jurassic Park: Trespasser							crouch, pick up, drop, throw, jump, shoot	chair		anything falling (junked vehicles, etc), lift	terrain	characters	dirt, grass, water	breast tattoo health, controllable arm			basketball, bats, batteries, bus sideview mirrors, cans (crushed beer/soda, paint), canteen, cement blocks, bones (+ rib cage, skull), boots, chairs, containers (crates, oil/fuel drums, plastic), helmet, hammer, I-beams, keycards, oil filters, mug (broken), phone cover (- pickupable), picture frame, pipes, radiator fans, rebar, rocks, shipping containers, table (portable), telephone (office-style), trailers, trashcans, wood: beams, planks, shards, sticks		* [[collision detection]]: mostly 2D (walking dinos, but angle when fallen/dead) * [[inverse kinematics]] * physics: ** objects: stackable, fall over, fly through air, impact, float (wood shards, etc) ** bullet impact force moves things ** very accurate, but slow * [[skeletal animation]]	mist	* object contact debris (dust) * [[particle effects]]: [[dust]] * [[shadows]]: ** [[in-texture shadows	yes	buttons: outdoor phone buttons activates message	above things moves them	levers/switches	* # levels: 1 [[island]], 8 [[areas]] * [[location]]: Site B (Isla Sorna: island near Costa Rica), 15km2 * [[FMV]]s: 3 * [[linear level progression]] * outdoor landscaping/terrain design: very natural/organic * [[puzzles]]: find keycards * [[damage]]/hazards: [[falling]] stone walls/statues (triggered)	Albertosaurus, Brachiosaurus, Parasaurolophus, Stegosaurus, Triceratops, Tyrannosaurus Rexes, Velocoraptors	dinosaurs attack each other	back, hand	ammo, weapons, keycards, almost anything less than or equal to the size of a weapon
Wurm	2006	role-playing game,simulation	OneTooFree	OneTooFree																																																																																															fantasy	Wurm Online
game	year	genre, genre	publisher	developer	character		proprietary	stereo										yes													description, description																																																													NPC,NPC			weapon, weapon				theme, theme					type	optimization		action, action	object, object	object	object			surface, surface				object, object	object, object					object	object	object			dodge,follow		object, object	weather	fire,smoke	dynamic	gravity	real-time	surface, surface	location, location	damage, damage	puzzle,puzzle	object	object	object	object			ammo, ammo	manual }} [[cat:templates]]
game-	year	genre, genre	publisher	developer	character		proprietary	stereo										yes													description, description																																																													NPC,NPC			weapon, weapon				theme, theme					type	optimization		action, action	object, object	object	object			surface, surface				object, object	object, object					object	object	object			dodge,follow		object, object	weather	fire,smoke	dynamic	gravity	real-time	surface, surface	location, location	damage, damage	puzzle,puzzle	object	object	object	object			ammo, ammo	manual }} [[cat:games

all headers but "website"--must specify field case exactly or TemplateTable doesn't use it :/

Article	year	genre	publisher	developer	engine	character
4x4 Evolution	2000	driving simulation	Gathering of Developers	Terminal Reality		vehicles
Aliens vs Predator 2	2001	first-person shooter	Sierra Entertainment	Monolith Productions	Lithtech	alien, predator, human
Arx Fatalis	2001	fantasy action-adventure-RPG		Arkane Studios	proprietary
Assassin's Creed	2008	action-adventure	Ubisoft	Ubisoft Montreal	Scimitar	Altair
Carmageddon TDR 2000	2000	arcade driving simulation	Torus Games	Sales Curve Interactive	proprietary
Construction-Destruction	2003	construction simulation	ValuSoft	Gabriel Interactive	proprietary
Deadly Dozen: Pacific Theater	2002	action-tactical		nFusion Interactive	proprietary
Devastation	2003	action	ARUSH Entertainment	Digitalo Studios	Unreal Tournament 2003
Dragon's Lair 3D	2002	action-adventure	Ubisoft	Dragonstone Software	proprietary	Dirk the Daring }} ==[[Effects]]== * atmospheric/environmental ** [[sparkles]]: [[magic]], [[mana]] cell ** [[steam]]: [[cauldron]], [[grate]]
Drakan: Order of the Flame	1999	action-adventure	Psygnosis	Surreal Software	Riot engine	Rynn
Dungeon Keeper 2	1999	real-time strategy	Electronic Arts	Bullfrog Productions	proprietary
GUN	2005	action-adventure	Activision	Neversoft Entertainment	proprietary
Gothic	2001	action-adventure, role-playing game		Piranha Bytes	proprietary	nameless
Half-Life²	2004	Action-Adventure	Sierra Entertainment	Valve Software	Source engine	Gordon Freeman
Hard Truck 2	1999	truck driving simulation		Softlab-NSK	proprietary	trucker
Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.²	2000	action-adventure	Sierra Entertainment	Ritual Entertainment	Quake III	Julie Strain
Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven	2002	action-driving simulation		Illusion Softworks	LS3D }} ==[[Engine]]
Magic Carpet	1994	action role-playing game		Bullfrog Productions	proprietary	Prince
Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed	2000	driving simulation	Electronic Arts	EA Canada	proprietary	cars
No One Lives Forever	2000	action-adventure		Monolith Productions	Lithtech }} ==[[Engine]]== * [[lighting]]: [[dynamic light
Outcast	1999	action-adventure	Infogrames	Appeal	Paradise	Cutter Slade
Postal²	2003	action	Whiptail Interactive	Running With Scissors	Unreal 2
Risen	2009	action-adventure, role-playing game		Piranha Bytes		nameless
Severance: Blade of Darkness	2001	action role-playing game	Codemasters	Rebel Act Studios	proprietary	various
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind		fantasy action-adventure-RPG			NDL NetImmerse }} ==[[Engine]]== * [[collision detection]]: 2D; character/NPCs can block doors * [[lighting]]: [[dynamic light
Thief: The Dark Project	1998	action-adventure	Eidos Interactive	Looking Glass Studios	Dark Engine	Garrett
Tomb Raider	1996	action-adventure	Eidos Interactive	Core Design	proprietary	Lara Croft
Tomb Raider: Legend	2005	action-adventure	Eidos Interactive	Crystal Dynamics	proprietary	Lara Croft
Trespasser	1998	action-adventure	Electronic Arts	Dreamworks	proprietary	Anne
Wurm	2006	role-playing game,simulation	OneTooFree	OneTooFree
game	year	genre, genre	publisher	developer	proprietary	character
game-	year	genre, genre	publisher	developer	proprietary	character

Dynamic Page List

Lists all articles in category even if they don't use template:game and doesn't include field links either:

%DPL-1.4.2-WARNING: No results!

With specific template declaration and manually entered field header category links (should take template table field data directly, preferably...):

%DPL-1.4.2-WARNING: No results!

With (redundant) DPL template and unspecified fields (empty fields show template code if template does not use a parser function to hide non-existent parameters, however):

%DPL-1.4.2-WARNING: No results!

Semantic MediaWiki

Possible but requires lots of complex relations/attributes/types in order to function. Last-ditch resort...getting closer to using it...but I don't think it can use rows and columns as headers (multi-dimensional tables) either...<sigh>